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A bunch of us are on Drupal, some of us operate it on our own, and then there's MeiLin who actually is some form of Drupal made flesh. It's a pretty great platform. A lot of people talk Drupal vs Wordpress automatically when Drupal is brought up, and I think they're both great platforms, Drupal just does what we want it to do. Mainly, that'd be counting up userpoints.

Drupal is a big pain for the uninitiated, though, because if you've never managed a CMS before or don't know PHP you're gonna be really confused by people on its forums who say "oh if you want to fix that there's a patch. Here's some code!" And then, if you're me, you won't know what to do. Luckily, Char is the other major half of my hivemind: she took the Drupal installation I borked and made it into a functional one again!

Biographical note: MeiLin was wondering why we ended up with Drupal, and really, it's the userpoints. I was looking up CMS-type stuff to use when I wanted to switch us off of Blogger, and Drupal seemed to have the most support and ready-to-use modules out of all the candidates. (WordPress and Joomla were the other two, plus... something else I can't even remember. Anyway, our host had all these scripts pre-installed and we had already paid for hosting. Also, MeiLin had a guide to "roll your own" and so I thought it'd be easy. HAH!) Drupal also looked like it was going to stay around for awhile and, at the time, I THOUGHT was fairly friendly to use for content producers who were not web developers. I was half-right. If you use Drupal you WILL need a developer to consult with or you will need to learn to program. If you're not up for that, I highly suggest digitalnovelists.com! That way MeiLin can do it for you and do it right. <3

Anyway, this is the Drupal thread. Feel free to make a WordPress thread, that way they can compete and we can finally declare which is better! <3

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I like working with Drupal for a lot of the same reasons that I love working with Linux.

I'm an utter fucking masochist.

(No really guys it's not that bad unless you're like me and have a psychopathic urge to muck about with whatever you're using to make it super-awesome and in the process suddenly find that you're learning how to do symlinks in PHP because you don't have shell access...)

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Aw, Drupal ain't that hard! Seriously, for 90% of people using it, they don't need any help at all, and the 10% left is custom stuff to make it do special things. It helps if you're a developer, because you can easily make it do that custom stuff, but it's hardly necessary.

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Interesting. That was exactly my impression of Drupal, so I passed. I found Joomla more workable.
However, I did a site for a client using the Joomla CMS, thinking it would be easier for a techiliterate. Quite the opposite. It drove her nuts and she begged me to redo the site and just teach her the html necessary for updating.

My first blogs were on Nucleus, which is kind of nice and I liked the way you could install it once, then spin off any number of blogs from the single install.

But it turned out just not to have the capabilities of WordPress so I switched. One major gripe I have with Nucleus is the support forums are so geeky you can't get straight dope on anything. People roll out jargon and initials when just saying it in English would be easier.

WordPress is more user-ready. And I guess they now have a version to create muliple blogs off one install. Anybody tried that one?

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One of the reasons I use Drupal for clients is that once I set it up, I don't have to touch it again for them for a long time, sometimes years. It pretty much runs itself once it's set up. Clare's twiddling notwithstanding, I get very few tech support questions from the DN bunch.

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Multisite is making me its bitch. ;_; It would help if I could find one set of coherent instructions to follow, but I'm having to piece it together via trial and error.

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Any time anyone has Drupal questions, they're welcome to ping me. SO many people have helped me over the years, and the only way to pay it back is pay it forward.

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I have problems every time I put PW's code into a content block and I don't know whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! D: (Haha just see PK's current site for proof.) I think the other reason I find it hard to work with is that I'm somewhere above "average casual user" but below "hardcore technocrat", so I only seem to find stuff to screw up when I try to do things. Like a brilliant but semi-concussed duckling.

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You need to specify a non-filtered input format. If you're using filtered html for the input format, it'll come out wonky. If you have permissions for the PHP filter, use that, even if the block contains no PHP. It won't filter the content at all--no auto line breaks, no translating of URLs, etc.

ETA: If you DON'T have PHP permissions (if you're a DN person, you most certainly don't), then set up a new input format (go to ~/admin, you'll find it under settings if memory serves) and DO NOT add the HTML filter or the line break filter to it. Make sure you DO NOT set it as the default; if you're on DN, give the "writer" role (that's you) the permission. If you make it the default, then people can conceivably post a lot of dangerous stuff on your site.

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I like Drupal because of the story categorization and ability to put things in first-to-last order, rather than most recent first like a blog (though that's an option too and that is good). Or I should say I like being on Digital Novelists. I honestly have no idea how much is MeiLin and how much is just Drupal.

Now I have to investigate the DN forums to figure out what "twiddling" I did... Ahaha, I still have no idea, except that the site kept giving me errors Tongue

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Yeah, Drupal can organize things into books and chapters and automatically generate a table of contents. If you have several books in order you can go through all the books in order from chapter to chapter without ever having to navigate a menu.

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We should get together and create a manual for n00bs on how to use Drupal. I still don't know how to do half the twiddling I want to do. Like get my custom blocks to stay where I freakin' put them.

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There really is a lot of n00b info at drupal.org. They just make it super difficult to get to.

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Yeah, and a lot of members there seem to take the "RTFM n00b" approach to answering questions, when the "M" isn't exactly user-friendly nor, in some cases, locatable.

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